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ConeHead2467 · Feb 12, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

ok guys, as you may know, i restarted my character(yet again). this time i went for a ranger/elementalist. I have all ranger skills and all elementalist skills. im almost at level 7. now, i have a couple questions.

1: am i ready and set to leave ascalon?

2: what are the recomended weapons i should use? bows for ranger, but wat about elementalist?

3: any tips yall have before i finally move on?

Thanks once agian in advance and i apreciate it.

Divinus Stella · Feb 12, 2006, 03:21 AM // 03:21

The first area (pre searing) is just a training area, you wont miss anything other than the scenery by moving onto the main area (post searing).

If your a ranger you should really be using a bow with ranger skills, for ranger the best use of the elementalist secondary profession is enchantments like conjure flame to boost damage, but for the time being your best of sticking to just ranger skills.

Before leaving ascalon its usually a good idea to pick up all skills for your primary profession atleast, also if its your first time round the game its good idea to do all quests you can find.

heavy metal rules · Feb 12, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29

I agree with divinus, once you leave pre- using your bow, either fire, lightning you'll want to get and use conjure flame or lightning for that added extra dmg. and concentrate like divinus said on your primary profession then later on adjust accordingly(sp?) by mixing in the either conjure ok..best of luck to you and have fun with it. I to am a r/ele it's alot of fun to play.

ConeHead2467 · Feb 12, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32

ok i have all skills for both of my professions. and im using a bow for ranger skills. but i dont completely get the other things u guys said. conjure? lightning? i dont get that. are there lightning bows and what not? im lost. ( i feel like such a noob)

Stormlord Alex · Feb 12, 2006, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Later on in the game (about Kryta I think) you can start to find enchantment spells, known as Conjure *element*. For the 'Conjure' spells of your Elementalist secondary, you must use a bow that is either Fiery, for Conjure Flame; Icy for Conjure Frost; or Shocking for Conjure Lightning. That way, when you cast the enchantment 'Conjure X' and you are wielding a bow of the corresponding element 'X', you will do extra damage.

Also, there is no 'Conjure' spell for Earth.

ConeHead2467 · Feb 12, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40

would it be ok for me to use things like earth staff, fire staff, etc etc for elementalist? thats like that main thing im looking for.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 12, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

If you mean that you want to be a Ranger who casts Ele spells rather than attacking with your bow or pet... I'd say go Elementalist primary. Generally, stick to bows.

tuperwho · Feb 12, 2006, 04:54 AM // 04:54

You could indeed pick up a staff to boost your energy and skill recarge/casting. However, this is not really recommended. While you are certainly free to play your character however you want, most people would advise you to use a bow (and thus, the appropriate ranger skills), since you are first and foremost a ranger.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 12, 2006, 05:11 AM // 05:11

Or be a beastmaster. ^^ Goodnight.

fiery · Feb 12, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13

Or a trapper.

trankle · Feb 12, 2006, 05:39 AM // 05:39

You won't get traps for a while.

The main advantage of being a ranger primary is for your expertise attribute. Expertise is amazing for making certain skills cost less energy. Here's the rub. Most elementalist skills are classified as spells, which expertise doesn't affect.

If you're really interested in the elementalist line of skills, it's probably better to make an elementalist. Their proprietary attribute is energy storage, which gives you a much larger energy pool. That's good, because many elementalist spells are quite costly.

I played an R/E. I generally filled my skillbar with ranger skills, as the ranger class is very well rounded. When I got to certain quests that would benefit from an ele skill or two, I would add them to my skillbar. With the way both classes are designed, I think you will have the most success playing this way. Most rangers you will talk to will tell you that they fill most or all of their skillbar with ranger skills. If you try to play your ranger as an ele, you will probably feel limited by the energy pool you have to work with.

I think a good way to look at any secondary profession is as a set of supporting skills, not an equal profession to jump back and forth from.

That said, play your character the way that feels best to you. I would wait until level 7 to leave pre, though. Have fun.

NatalieD · Feb 12, 2006, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Later on in the game (about Kryta I think) you can start to find enchantment spells, known as Conjure *element*. For the 'Conjure' spells of your Elementalist secondary, you must use a bow that is either Fiery, for Conjure Flame; Icy for Conjure Frost; or Shocking for Conjure Lightning. That way, when you cast the enchantment 'Conjure X' and you are wielding a bow of the corresponding element 'X', you will do extra damage.

Also, there is no 'Conjure' spell for Earth.

Incidentally, with Conjure Flame you don't need a special bow if you also use the preparation Kindle Arrows.

pkodyssey · Feb 12, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38

But.....

Doesn't Conjure Flame and Ignite Arrows stack for even more damge?

ConeHead2467 · Feb 12, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

alright guys. read through it all and answered some questions. ill stivck to using bows. as for skills, i have all the ranger skill sin my askill bar except for the pet skills. and the rest i have ele skills. if u want ill post a screen shot so u can see if itll help. o and BTW, where do i get spider legs? i cant find them anywhere so i can get leather leggings.

thanks again.

LiQuId StEeL · Feb 12, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

The resear spiders are by Fort Ranik. Go out, and go to the left, and spiders will fall out of the trees (this is during the Basket of Apples quest thingy)

pkodyssey · Feb 12, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

you can get those outside Ft Ranick near where you did the basket of apples quest. I forget the name off hand.

Just go straight out the door of Ft Ranik, spiders will drop outta trees

ConeHead2467 · Feb 12, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29

i got it. i guess that that would be all for now. before i leave, and tips and/or tricks you guys have?

Kai Nui · Feb 12, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Did you get the skill point from that devona quest? I'd do all the quests you can.

Swampgirl Inez · Feb 12, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

As a ranger, make sure you have spoken to Aiden before you leave. I made the mistake of forgetting about him until right before I left pre-sear.

I almost missed out on the fiery arrows. He will also give you a quest which takes you through a bunch of spiders.

trankle · Feb 12, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

There's actually a skill checklist that can help you make sure you have every skill before leaving. Very handy.

Feb 12, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08	#1
ConeHead2467 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Itsca, IL	Am I set to leave? ok guys, as you may know, i restarted my character(yet again). this time i went for a ranger/elementalist. I have all ranger skills and all elementalist skills. im almost at level 7. now, i have a couple questions. 1: am i ready and set to leave ascalon? 2: what are the recomended weapons i should use? bows for ranger, but wat about elementalist? 3: any tips yall have before i finally move on? Thanks once agian in advance and i apreciate it.

Feb 12, 2006, 03:21 AM // 03:21	#2
Divinus Stella Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wales Guild: Steel Phoenix	The first area (pre searing) is just a training area, you wont miss anything other than the scenery by moving onto the main area (post searing). If your a ranger you should really be using a bow with ranger skills, for ranger the best use of the elementalist secondary profession is enchantments like conjure flame to boost damage, but for the time being your best of sticking to just ranger skills. Before leaving ascalon its usually a good idea to pick up all skills for your primary profession atleast, also if its your first time round the game its good idea to do all quests you can find.

Feb 12, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29	#3
heavy metal rules Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: cape cod, ma Guild: {bkr} bad karma ressurection Profession: W/	I agree with divinus, once you leave pre- using your bow, either fire, lightning you'll want to get and use conjure flame or lightning for that added extra dmg. and concentrate like divinus said on your primary profession then later on adjust accordingly(sp?) by mixing in the either conjure ok..best of luck to you and have fun with it. I to am a r/ele it's alot of fun to play.

Feb 12, 2006, 03:32 AM // 03:32	#4
ConeHead2467 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Itsca, IL	ok i have all skills for both of my professions. and im using a bow for ranger skills. but i dont completely get the other things u guys said. conjure? lightning? i dont get that. are there lightning bows and what not? im lost. ( i feel like such a noob)

Feb 12, 2006, 03:45 AM // 03:45	#5
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	Later on in the game (about Kryta I think) you can start to find enchantment spells, known as Conjure element. For the 'Conjure' spells of your Elementalist secondary, you must use a bow that is either Fiery, for Conjure Flame; Icy for Conjure Frost; or Shocking for Conjure Lightning. That way, when you cast the enchantment 'Conjure X' and you are wielding a bow of the corresponding element 'X', you will do extra damage. Also, there is no 'Conjure' spell for Earth.

Feb 12, 2006, 04:40 AM // 04:40	#6
ConeHead2467 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Itsca, IL	would it be ok for me to use things like earth staff, fire staff, etc etc for elementalist? thats like that main thing im looking for.

Feb 12, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53	#7
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	If you mean that you want to be a Ranger who casts Ele spells rather than attacking with your bow or pet... I'd say go Elementalist primary. Generally, stick to bows.

Feb 12, 2006, 04:54 AM // 04:54	#8
tuperwho Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]	You could indeed pick up a staff to boost your energy and skill recarge/casting. However, this is not really recommended. While you are certainly free to play your character however you want, most people would advise you to use a bow (and thus, the appropriate ranger skills), since you are first and foremost a ranger.

Feb 12, 2006, 05:11 AM // 05:11	#9
Stormlord Alex Grotto Attendant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island Guild: Soul of Melandru [sOm] Profession: W/E	Or be a beastmaster. ^^ Goodnight.

Feb 12, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13	#10
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	Or a trapper.

Feb 12, 2006, 05:39 AM // 05:39	#11
trankle Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: BloodBath & Beyond Profession: Rt/	You won't get traps for a while. The main advantage of being a ranger primary is for your expertise attribute. Expertise is amazing for making certain skills cost less energy. Here's the rub. Most elementalist skills are classified as spells, which expertise doesn't affect. If you're really interested in the elementalist line of skills, it's probably better to make an elementalist. Their proprietary attribute is energy storage, which gives you a much larger energy pool. That's good, because many elementalist spells are quite costly. I played an R/E. I generally filled my skillbar with ranger skills, as the ranger class is very well rounded. When I got to certain quests that would benefit from an ele skill or two, I would add them to my skillbar. With the way both classes are designed, I think you will have the most success playing this way. Most rangers you will talk to will tell you that they fill most or all of their skillbar with ranger skills. If you try to play your ranger as an ele, you will probably feel limited by the energy pool you have to work with. I think a good way to look at any secondary profession is as a set of supporting skills, not an equal profession to jump back and forth from. That said, play your character the way that feels best to you. I would wait until level 7 to leave pre, though. Have fun.

Feb 12, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38	#13
pkodyssey Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a cardboard box with Internet Guild: The Order of the Frozen Tundra (TofT) Profession: N/	But..... Doesn't Conjure Flame and Ignite Arrows stack for even more damge?

Feb 12, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24	#14
ConeHead2467 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Itsca, IL	alright guys. read through it all and answered some questions. ill stivck to using bows. as for skills, i have all the ranger skill sin my askill bar except for the pet skills. and the rest i have ele skills. if u want ill post a screen shot so u can see if itll help. o and BTW, where do i get spider legs? i cant find them anywhere so i can get leather leggings. thanks again.

Feb 12, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34	#15
LiQuId StEeL Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: /u/liquidsteel30 Guild: Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO] Profession: W/Mo	The resear spiders are by Fort Ranik. Go out, and go to the left, and spiders will fall out of the trees (this is during the Basket of Apples quest thingy)

Feb 12, 2006, 07:29 PM // 19:29	#17
ConeHead2467 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Itsca, IL	i got it. i guess that that would be all for now. before i leave, and tips and/or tricks you guys have?

Feb 12, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37	#18
Kai Nui Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Behind you with a knife Guild: Celebrity Gangsters [FamE] Profession: Me/	Did you get the skill point from that devona quest? I'd do all the quests you can.

Feb 12, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52	#19
Swampgirl Inez "I love reading trash!" Join Date: May 2005 Location: Home Again	As a ranger, make sure you have spoken to Aiden before you leave. I made the mistake of forgetting about him until right before I left pre-sear. I almost missed out on the fiery arrows. He will also give you a quest which takes you through a bunch of spiders.

Feb 12, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02	#20
trankle Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: BloodBath & Beyond Profession: Rt/	There's actually a skill checklist that can help you make sure you have every skill before leaving. Very handy.